http://www.southsidescholar.com/2009/09/23/how-murs-misses-the-point-about-women-and-rock-the-bells/ ... Ramblings from a South Side Grad Student Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:39:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 http://www.southsidescholar.com/2009/09/23/how-murs-misses-the-point-about-women-and-rock-the-bells/comment-page-1/#comment-77 MissLadySoul Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:54:31 +0000 http://www.southsidescholar.com/?p=303#comment-77 well said love. well said love.

]]> http://www.southsidescholar.com/2009/09/23/how-murs-misses-the-point-about-women-and-rock-the-bells/comment-page-1/#comment-75 dumilewis Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:32:55 +0000 http://www.southsidescholar.com/?p=303#comment-75 I like your take on this. I think it reflects the ways that when we talk about a rapper being "conscious" we talk about it as an achieved or flat status. The reality is that work around gender, race, sexuality, and class (read: social justice work) is iterative and we have to challenge our ideas which may be steeped in stereotypes which come from living in a racist, sexist, heteronormative climate. thanks for opening the dialogue I like your take on this. I think it reflects the ways that when we talk about a rapper being “conscious” we talk about it as an achieved or flat status. The reality is that work around gender, race, sexuality, and class (read: social justice work) is iterative and we have to challenge our ideas which may be steeped in stereotypes which come from living in a racist, sexist, heteronormative climate. thanks for opening the dialogue

]]> http://www.southsidescholar.com/2009/09/23/how-murs-misses-the-point-about-women-and-rock-the-bells/comment-page-1/#comment-73 AMB Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:10:39 +0000 http://www.southsidescholar.com/?p=303#comment-73 @Why, honestly, I tend to think that arguing about which rapper cares about women more, based on whatever single they just released doesn't make much sense. At the end of the day, every single one of them (conscious, underground, mainstream, whatever...) will release a song that is political, misogynist, or even uplifting of women, if it fits whatever their particular agenda is on that day. And honestly, that flexibility is not really at issue here. From my perspective, you can rap about whatever you want, but hip-hop has a responsibility to create a space where women are able to do the same. peace. @Why, honestly, I tend to think that arguing about which rapper cares about women more, based on whatever single they just released doesn’t make much sense. At the end of the day, every single one of them (conscious, underground, mainstream, whatever…) will release a song that is political, misogynist, or even uplifting of women, if it fits whatever their particular agenda is on that day. And honestly, that flexibility is not really at issue here.
From my perspective, you can rap about whatever you want, but hip-hop has a responsibility to create a space where women are able to do the same.
peace.

]]> http://www.southsidescholar.com/2009/09/23/how-murs-misses-the-point-about-women-and-rock-the-bells/comment-page-1/#comment-72 Why Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:12:37 +0000 http://www.southsidescholar.com/?p=303#comment-72 By definition Hip-Hop is not hyper-masculine, violent and hyper-sexual. You're right about that. However, turn on the TV or the radio, which happen to be the main forms of media distribution, and that's all you see. Hip-Hop is rooted in misogyny. Bitches ain't been shit for about 20 years plus now. Black Star's Brown Skin Lady is proof that they care about women and are trying to make a change. But don't be surprised if you catch them spitting some misogynistic lyrics from time to time. By definition Hip-Hop is not hyper-masculine, violent and hyper-sexual. You’re right about that. However, turn on the TV or the radio, which happen to be the main forms of media distribution, and that’s all you see. Hip-Hop is rooted in misogyny. Bitches ain’t been shit for about 20 years plus now. Black Star’s Brown Skin Lady is proof that they care about women and are trying to make a change. But don’t be surprised if you catch them spitting some misogynistic lyrics from time to time.

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